Reversing Entropy, A Simple Mind Fuck

So I recently read ‘The Last Question‘ by Isaac Asimov. Its a short story written in 1956 dealing with the concept of entropy and implying another justification for our existence – you can find the entirety of the text in the link above, I highly recommend you read it.

Ever since I’ve been plagued by this thought, this idea, that entropy seems to be the only true method to measure change, and consequently time.

Popularly speaking, there are two concepts of time, cyclical or linear, circle or straight line – in one interpretation this has all happened before, and will again, small variations on a theme, until we break free of the cycle. To the Hindu’s, this is reaching ‘Atman’ – call it what you will, I’m not interested in discussing religion. That’s a whole other discussion entirely.

Whether its a circle or a line, think about how you actually measure the passage of time…can it be done empirically? Perhaps. Given the absence of sensory input, how is one aware that time has passed? Firstly, this can only be done once the senses are regained. Following this, one evaluates their surroundings. If time has passed, the only way you’ll know is through the perception of CHANGE.

Now, Entropy.



(ntr-p)n. pl. en·tro·pies

1. Symbol S For a closed thermodynamic system, a quantitative measure of the amount of thermal energy not available to do work.
2. A measure of the disorder or randomness in a closed system.
3. A measure of the loss of information in a transmitted message.
4. The tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity.
5. Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society.”

The most important aspects of those definitions are 4 and 5, for my immediate purposes. Everything, no matter is form so long as it has one, is subject to entropy. The concept of something immune to entropy  equates to timelessness, an idea which further contributes to the theory that entropy defines time.
So take it one step further and analyze your own perceptions. Show your work.
Assumption: All knowledge is a result of sensory perception
Assumption: Extrasensory perception is a theoretical impossibility
Assumption: If it is perceived it is subjective.
Deduction: All knowledge is subjective
If we cannot know anything beyond a subjective sense, is this then the launch point for any further discussion? The acceptance of the absence of true knowledge should set you free, it would seem, to explain existence. Really, at this point, anything can be truth, since truth is what we make it, right?
then again, I leave you with this:
If everything is perceived, perception is subjective, then nothing is true, how can I make this statement?

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4 Responses to Reversing Entropy, A Simple Mind Fuck

  1. David says:

    From “Prometheus Rising” by Robert Anton Wilson
    Information is also known mathematically as negative entropy or, in a widely used abbreviation, negentropy.
    Entropy is a measure of the deadness of a system. Negentropy, or information, is a measure of the liveliness of a system.
    Evolution is always a matter of at least two stochastic processes, each acting as ‘selector’ of the other(s). This is, in non-living systems, where no such ‘selection’ is involved, entropy (lack of coherence) steadily increases, as stated in the famous Second Law of Thermodynamics. In living systems, due to stochastic co-selection, negentropy (information) steadily increases. In Schrodinger’s phrase ‘Life feeds on negative entropy.’ Life is an ordering, selecting, coherence-making process.
    Without getting embroiled in metaphysics, life (evolution) behaves as if it were always aiming at higher coherence, i.e., higher intelligence.
    …The human increment accelerates faster than pre-human evolution because through the third, semantic circuit (in the mind) and its symbols (words, maps, equations, etc.) we are able to pass information (negative entropy: coherence) from generation to generation.

    • DIEHARD says:


      you hypothesis on only being able to understand the passge of time through perception of change omits the reality of what is known as the circadian rythym, which in humans gives us the ability to tell time without references to change, unless you aquate change to a state of sleep. It is more commonly known as the biological clock (male form — not female) and would allow you upon waking in the morning or night without sensory perception to have, in reality a very close approxiamtion of the time. (barring other inhibiting variants and /or factors — you know what I mean.)

      Sorry to otherwise intrude on this intersting topic. Carry on

      • Circadian rhythm, interesting. The major issue I see with this argument is that circadian rhythm does in fact relate to change, internally at least. A biological clock wouldn’t exist without measured function, which is occurs as a result of change, no matter how subtle.

        Change definitely isn’t a state of sleep, but whilst we sleep change continues to occur, which allows the biological clock to be set. As it seems to be this rhythm is set by external stimuli received, typically the level/amount of light detected.

        Also, hasn’t it been proven in extreme scenarios, such as solitary confinement, that the normal light-dark cycle is broken, causing irregular sleep patterns and an offset internal clock?

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